UMD Libertarians

She’s not from a swing state, she’s not an economic powerhouse, she’s not nationally known, and she opens the door for a lot of republicanesque diversions from the issues.

I honestly think that he would have won with Romney. Now, I’m not so sure…
I don’t get it either, but romney would have lost more votes then he brought so he woudln’t have been a good choice.
she’s pot smoking, gun toting, disabled child raising hot vagina
I suppose that she will appeal to women, but I don’t think that most women will vote for someone solely because they’re a woman.

Plus, UNLIKE Hillary, she hasn’t endured any hardship that women relate with.
republicans thought it was a smart idea to add the gender card to their deck
Frankly I rather have her as the choice then McCain, at least she seems to be financially conservative.

You think so? I really think that the Hillary democrats can swing this election towards McCain, and I think Romeny would have done well to bring them over.
It’s a doggie treat to the disenchanted Hillary supporters.

i don’t think that women democrats really respect republican women, i think they view them as women who reject the women’s rights movement and would rather choose a life in subservience to men
Still don’t know why he didn’t just go with Hutchinson or the Hewlett-Packard chick.

You’re possibly right.

Not that I was going to choose McCain anyway, but this goes a long way to show his judgement. In my opinion, he REALLY blew this one.

HUTCHINSON DIDNT WANT TO BE VP

Very true and can include black democrats in that group.

Fiorino was a miserable failure at HP. We’d have had a field day with that.

like uncle toms and black people

She is worthless, took over a great company and ran it into the ground. Frankly everyone was happy when she left.

they’ll vote for her for being a woman just like blacks will vote for obama for being black.

her difficult is going to be her pro-choice stance. women get touchy when other women are "pro" abortion.

she has a handicapped child

Now my boy Hurd is making HP BANK.

for as many of those as he brought there would be even more voting against him for being mormon.

Ahhh… I thought she had gotten a good reputation from it, the way that they hype her background. I guess that’s the story behind her though.

But still … everyone loved Hutchinson, as far as I could tell.

I agree to the point about being pro-choice, especially since it seems that the right has really been waiting for a pro-life stance to unify.

As for a handicapped child, most women haven’t endured that. Almost ALL women have had someone cheat on them.

Mormon > Evil Muslim

idk …. could help swing a few

The child is what … FOUR months old? She hasn’t LIVED THROUGH that yet.
It is a hail-mary and really shows where the McCain camp thinks this election is going in terms of their own chances.

Yes, some women will vote for the ticket because of her, but having a woman VP doesn’t guarantee you the women vote. I believe Ferraro didn’t even get a majority of the women vote when she was the VP candidate.

She is staunchly pro-life, and I believe having Hillary out on the stomp will help remind women just how extreme Palin’s views are.

This also undercuts McCain’s ‘experience’ argument.

It definitely shakes things up to a degree, though.

but they can relate to being pregnant, the fear of not knowing if your baby will be ok, and they’re going to empathize with her for having a handicapped child.

you’re not married are you?

You’re giving them too much credit. The old hags that supported Hillary in my office are already giddy with the idea of having a female veep.

You’ve said more stupid stuff today than ever before. I can’t believe you have kids. Every woman has a fear that her baby will be handicapped. Every single woman, at some point, either out loud or in her head says "dear god let this baby be healthy." She has a handicapped baby. That’s a million things she’s lived through that most women haven’t and they’re going to relate to her while at the same time thinking "thank god it wasn’t mine."

"I’M GOING TO VOTE FOR HER TO PART OF HISTORY!"

What does me being married have to do with the difference between enduring public humiliation at the hands of a man, and enduring difficulty because of a birth defect?

You’re clearly missing the point:

A powerful MAN caused pain and suffering to Hillary. She endured that in front of the entire nation. Women saw her do that and they want to put her in a position of power to even the score.

There’s a huge difference between empathy and support.
jeeze 7960, you swung back HARD to support this new VP.

That’s what I was thinking. He picked a woman VP to try and pull the feminist Hillary supporters to his side. Who knows, it may work.

Questioning a parent’s obligation to their newborns is REALLY STUPID! Yep … sure is.

So probably has EVERY SINGLE FATHER, myself included.

Mine doubly so, since my second child was actually SUPPOSED to BE fucked up due to complications arising after the first pregnancy.

What the hell is your point. Just having a special child isn’t the experience. It’s actually raising one that probably counts.

Indeed. Something lit a fire under his ass….
Who?

Who is this person we’re talking about?

what?

I’m defending obama against stupid shit in another thread.

honestly, I’m sick of lies. every day it’s "mccain’s going to bring back the draft!" shit so ever day I post "you’re stuipd." when people post "obama loves criminals!" I post back proof that what they’re saying is stupid.

the last part of this discussion has been about her being a mother and having a new handicapped baby. how does that disqualify her from being VP?

talk about her politics all you want but there’s no reason her husband can’t take care of the baby. Karnejj said "so you expect her to have no interaction with her child?" and that’s about as fucking repugnantly ignoramusls monumentally stupid as it gets. I haven’t swung back hard to support this new VP. I just think arguments that "people won’t vote for her because she has a baby" are dumb.

you, being a fucking piece of shit cumstick in the other thread started it off.

Yet … your only actual rebuttal about it has been along the lines of "her husband can take care of the baby".
Plus, do you think the question of, "What kind of mother would take on this responsibility with a newborn with birth defects back at home?"

You think women will go for this…?

did you question clinton’s when he ran for president with a 7 year old?

would you be questioning the choice if it was a married man with a newborn?

you are monumentally stupid.

Of course by that you mean, "by questioning her responsibilities to a newborn baby" …. I’m such a piece of shit for that.

Fuckin family values… who needs ‘em.

no, you’re missing the point, becasue……..

NOT TO A WOMAN.

Ahhh… 7 yr olds and newborns are the same thing.

I certainly would.

Yeah… my point is completely invalid.

1. Because you point was stupid.

and

2. He can.

Not as amazing as your parents being cursed with you.

Whatever. Your lack of an answer shows it certainly may not be.

oh right, family values means "only the man can go to work, the woman has to stay home!"

do you let your wife drive, or do you keep her chained to the stove?

hahaha every child is a blessing, even yours.

I’m waiting for an intelligent question.

right

but his child has been cursed with him as a father
I fully understand it.
You have half the Democrats who were supporting Hillary upset that she didn’t win the nomination, then upset she was passed over for VP in favor of Biden who is just an old guard Democrat.

So what better to not only steal the thunder from Obama, but to try and pull some of those Hillary supporters over.

Let’s be honest, there are people that are voting for Obama simply because he’s half black and there were people supporting Hillary simply because she was a woman. Doesn’t matter squat what they stood for, it was simply the race/gender.
Now those who are pissed that Hillary is out of the picture have another woman to turn to.

Will it work? Of course it will for those idiots who only supported a woman because she’s a woman. The question will be, are there enough idiots that do that to make a difference in the general elections.

Cool strawman. Keep building ‘em.

you keep asking ignorant questions, what do you expect?

So your claim now is that women can’t differentiate between support and empathy?

Wow.

If women are that incapable of functioning and controlling their emotions, then surely, you don’t want one in office. Right?

you have lots to learn.

…ignorant shortsighted strawman bullshit from you.

shut the fuck up.

everything he’s said has been beyond stupid. i feel entitled to follow suit.

You’re a turd whistle and someone who views himself as a bully. And bullies only respond to a punch in the teeth.

just took a look at dailykos

But then again a shitload of Hillary supporters didn’t even back Obama.

McCain made a huge mistake… expect to see a drop in his poll numbers when we get back from labor day weekend.

This chick is worse than potatoey Quayle

he’s not going to convert pro-hillary women just by naming a woman.

but she’s going to bring women’s votes just for being a woman.

All you democrats are shaking in your fucking boots, Obama just got a beat down. He didn’t even see it coming.

Go ahead, scramble to find something wrong with this woman.

why?

She has a vagina.

Yep …. I’ve questioned whether her obligations to a newborn may possibly interfere with her job or, in the other extreme whether her potential job as a VP would interfere with her obligations to her newborn.

THAT’S SO STUPID! Everyone knows that VPs or mothers of newborns are barely pressed by their commitments at all…. it’d be retarded to question the combination

being an "ex hockey mom", he’s obviously going after the dual/ex canadian block

It seems you painted yourself into a corner, my friend.

Either women can differentiate emotions, and they won’t vote for her; or woman can’t differentiate their emotions, and therefore, you surely don’t want one in office.

Which is it?

Is that why all the talk shows are collectively asking "WTF"?

so mccain voters can feel like they too are apart of history by voting his ticket.

yea, maybe she’ll have what it takes to put putin in check

her PMS > his judo

.

and one we’d like to penetrate at that.

damn you, McCain
mccains old ass kicks the bucket—-she becomes prez

lesbos n dykes still sucking hillarys cock get their wet dream

Except that she’s pro-life and against gay marriage….so that doesn’t really appeal to lesbos and Hillary supporters.

no, not at all.

to *MOST* women support and empathy go hand in hand. she’s going to get the benefit of the doubt from women who don’t know anything about her just because she’s gone through. she’s already gone through a lifetime just carrying and having a handicapped child…that’s where she’s going to get empathy/sympathy/support.

Oh, I see. So you know her well enough that you can state without doubt, that she’s able to differentiate her emotions?
Don’t insult women’s intelligence by saying that they will vote purely on gender lines. You do the same thing when you say black people only vote for Obama because he’s black but totally gloss over the fact that the VAST majority of blacks are already democrats

oh christ………….seriously, find a woman, get to know her. then live with her and REALLY get to know her. listen to her talk with her sister on the phone. pay attention when she’s talking to/with/about friends.

until you’ve done that leave me alone.

Erm, genius, if your two points weren’t contradicting yourself, you’d make it easier on yourself.

Now of course, you’re claiming that women can’t seperate emotions. That’s great, I may even agree with you.

As that’s the case, why would you want one in the White House?

Oh, and I’ve lived with a woman for the past 3 years. Try to respond without contradicting yourself, until you can manage to do that, just zip it.
^^^and, he calls me out in this thread, yet ignores the post mocking him.

Yep …. I’ve questioned whether her obligations to a newborn may possibly interfere with her job or, in the other extreme whether her potential job as a VP would interfere with her obligations to her newborn.

THAT’S SO STUPID! Everyone knows that VPs or mothers of newborns are barely pressed by their commitments at all…. it’d be retarded to question the combination

You’re a fucking idiot.

or be turned off cuz of the pro life part of her choice

Yeah… she’s REALLY lived through the crucial experiences of her child’s handicap after these four months.
hes doing this to get the hilary supporters who only vote for women, idiots
well all I can say so far as that bitch has one incredibly annoying voice
I just hope there aren’t enough stupid people to make a difference

Not even slightly. The Hillary supports cannot relate with this woman in the slightest. It’s not just being a woman, it’s being the kind of woman that Hillary is that attracted them. This bitch is just a no name female.

No, I’d say it had to do with being a woman.

Then you haven’t met too many Hillary supporters in real life. Women can relate to Hillary Clinton, not just some random ass woman. Do you think that Condy would swing the female vote if she ran? What about Pelosi?

Barr was in danger of taking Alaska which would have ensured Obama’s win. Not anymore.

and what makes you the judge of what she commits to?

oh, wait! I’m going to question whether obama can be impartial on race issues!!

your argument is about as valid

How many electoral votes do they have…. can’t be that many.

edit: lol…just checked. Obama would’ve been guaranteed with those 3 electoral votes that would have been reported 2nd to last?? Shit man, I thought you called McCain scraping through to win this thing? Must be a pretty borderline win that you’re predicting….?

yep, that’s why she’s not bringing new voters. (R) women are already going to vote for (R). (D) women may have crossed for an (R) woman but not one who violates a core belief. i don’t understand which new voters mccain is going to gain because of her.

I never really officially called anything. I’ve been too busy with school to actually put my political science degree to use

School interfering with yer schoolings. Tragic irony in there somewhere
I think black women are going to have a hard time deciding who to vote for.

WTF kinda dumb question is that? The right to vote forces me to play such a judge.

Whether it’s a question of any import to you, doesn’t invalidate the legitimacy of me asking it.

…. yeah, he’s probably gonna stick it to White America. Too bad he didn’t grow up around White folks so that he can learn about any of the culture or develop any love for anyone outside of the Black community.

the kind that’s asking what right you have assuming she’ll cancel a trip to meet with a head of state because she needs to take her baby to the doctor.

so he’s ok because he grew up around white people but she’s going to cancel trips becasue she had a baby even though it’s her 5th so it’s not like she’s new to this?

"Oh noes! He was completely serious and wasn’t engaging in hyperbole at all when bringing up that point. That means his questions have no merit and that he’s a raving lunatic."

And you think I am the one going overboard….

according to all the other ignorant shit you’ve posted there was no reason to believe otherwise

Fifth, sixth, and seventh newborns pop out and pretty much take care of themselves … or something like that.

If you believed that was completely serious, then one of us really is pretty ignorant.

you’re saying obama’s going to be ok becuase he’s been around whites before but she’s not going to be able to concentrate on her job even though this is her 5th kid

Please tell me you’re being sarcastic.

Nope. Believe it or not, there will be people who vote based on skin color or gender alone. It’s sad, but true.

They didn’t with Hillary.. so they sure as hell won’t with this Republican woman

For anyone that narrow-minded, I’d venture a guess that
race >>>>>>>> gender

I didn’t say that, I know that’s true. Black women aren’t struggling with this choice. Even if they were voting for Hillary, they won’t vote for this woman. Being able to relate as an african american is far more important than being a woman. 10% of the population versus over half.

Precisely.

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