UMD Libertarians

then i want our government to collapse.

yea i gotta start getting high again
i can see you’ve thought this through

anyway the collapse of the economy appears unavoidable

the dollar will soon be worth nothing

seriously, maybe after this people will wake the fuck up

holy fuck

Then OT will collapse because we’d get taken over by some dictatorship and lose our freedom. Is that what you want?

i mean it collapsing because the we decided to stop listening to their bullshit
Yes Odessa has been in waiting, the 4th Reich is nigh.

If this country collapsed financially along with the government…what do you think would happen? Our troops are overseas along with a large amount of military machinery. Do you think that all gets back here quickly and efficiently?

Russian backed invasion isn’t impossible you know. I know it’s a stretch but nothing is impossible and anything can happen.

McCain is no different, no i offically hate the US government they have done nothing but put this country in the shitter. they don’t care about quality anymore, just like everything else in this society, it’s about quantity

So what type of government would we have? Who would be the leader?

maybe

i dont know yet

colony of china

Could you get back to us soon?

I vote one party system.

if our shit collapses, msot of the shit around the world would collapse, the russians wouldn’t have anybody to sell their gas to and would collapse, too

No…government has gotten too big and we have too many people in this country that thinks our government should take care of them. A large amount of citizens think they are entitled to anything the government can get them for free. Eventually the gov’t goes bankrupt because it doesn’t have enough working taxpayers for income. Smaller gov’t, less programs and welfare is what we need. Plus you have two people that have raised about $400,000,000 to get a job that pays $471,000. I think that kind of money could be spent on other things.

that’s pretty much what i want, i hate this multiple party system, just vote for someone who you think will grant us the best for our country and thats that and put in a voting system where you have to have knowledge on who you’re voting for. you can’t just vote for someone just because of their race or gender, or even character.

That has a lot of truth to it.

But it is still not impossible.

if you think the less than 1 percent of government spending on welfare has anything to do with anything, you must be a complete fucking moron

if you want a one party system, go to cuba, check out their living situation and get back to me

cuban bitches on the other hand

You sir are citing a third world country. Go look at post civil war Spain and get back to me.

Nukes would fly if it came down to that.

Vote for Barack and you’ll have it. But you’ll have less money but more gov’t programs. You’ll be paying for freeloaders medical bills too. Cuba has a one party system. China pretty much is a one party system. So do Iran and North Korea. That is the life I would want to lead too!!

Welfare
Gov’t run Health care
etc…

gov’t healthcare is nothing more than a straight check to pharma companies. In Germany, a country that has healthcare available to everybody, they spend less money per person than in the USA where 40,000,000 men, women and children are not covered

Well that is a problem where health care in this country has been abusing the system for a long time now. I pay more for a family health insurance plan than a family in New York pays. There should be some regulation but not to the point where gov’t controls everything about my health coverage. Doctors and hospitals charge way more than what they need to for health care these days. I mean the $15 tylenol pill my son took last year was on the excessive to downright gouging side.
i’m kinda weird in how i sometimes want to be put in difficult situations to see how i’m able to pull through….but economic collapse is definitely among the things i never want to happen

you’re asking for big gubment to get out of health care and a post later you are talking about regulating the health industry

I agree with you that some competent people should revamp the US health care system

Regulating by making them more accountable and make their incomes and payouts more accessible to the public. In MN we had a CEO of a health insurance company make $400,000,000 on a stock option. He did get busted but what if it hadn’t? Health insurance companies are making way too much money along with hospitals and I think even some doctors are overpaid.

Who U talkin too?
mccain and obama do not differ on any of the important issues
you probably just got put in the terrorist list..remember the govt is watching evrything cuz of the patriot act

the OP, i’m from lake county as well.

Mundelein

qft

wake up and do what exactly?

honestly I don’t either, but it just seems like there are a lot of people out there who don’t give a shit and the only way for shit to get done is when we’re chaos. It’s sad but true

shs?

Apologists for the bailout plan say that it will have a trickle-down benefit for taxpayers.

But in his testimony to the Senate today, Bernanke pretty much admitted that the bailout isn’t aimed at helping taxpayers.

Specifically, as the Wall Street Journal summarizes it:

Bernanke used his time to argue for not buying assets at fire-sale prices in the Treasury’s $700 billion bailout proposal.

***Mr. Bernanke said the Treasury plan should have taxpayers buy the assets and hold them at close to their maturity value. Removing the assets, he said, would bring liquidity back to markets, unfreeze credit markets, reduce uncertainty and allow banks to attract private capital.

Forcing assets down to even lower fire-sale prices would protect taxpayers the most, since the government would own the assets below the value if held to maturity. As long as those securities didn’t flat-out default, the government’s purchase would have a substantial upside. However, Mr. Bernanke essentially argued that doing so would hurt markets even further and wouldn’t solve the problem facing the economy. In pushing back against congressional efforts to change the Treasury proposal, Mr. Bernanke said: “We cannot impose punitive measures on institutions that choose to sell assets.” The beneficiaries would be not just the companies selling, but markets and the overall economy, he said.

Still, he acknowledged that the precise approach to doing so hadn’t been determined, arguing for flexibility. “We do not know exactly what the best design is,” and that would come from consultation with experts, Mr. Bernanke said.

“We believe that strong and timely action is urgently needed to stabilize our markets and our economy,” he said.

In subsequent questioning, Mr. Bernanke distinguished between, on the one hand, “fire sale prices,” the ones that prevail “when you sell into an illiquid market” and, on the other, the prices that holders think the assets are really worth, sometimes described as “fundamental” values or “hold-to-maturity” value.

“The holders have a view of what they think it’s worth. It’s hard for outsiders to know,” Mr. Bernanke said. The point of an auction is to reveal those prices.

???
invest in gold while you still have time…police state could be coming

huh?

stevenson hs.
Living in IL I can see why you have no hope for a future….

il is the land of lincoln kid, better watch how ya talking when you talking to a OG like me.
im liquidate all my stock/savings tommorow and buy gold
I wish… Big Brother would jump at the opportunity to declare marshal law!

yes, because Russia is financially equipped to wage a major war overseas

yea really

no MHS

you’re gonna live in my IL

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