UMD Libertarians

Fuck, they’re not answering questions together.

/thread fail
lol @ OT thinking a black man will win

at least we know from previous years that OT is always wrong, thank god.
He’s leading in the polls right now; I think it’s more likely than you think.

Who his biggest life influences were, or something like that.

Was his answer his rich white family, his rich white school, his racist pastor, or his racist wife?

Smart answers from a smart man…..

John McCain is worth a little over a 100-million while Obama is worth about a 100th of that only because of his book sales.
watched a couple minutes and heard the moderator not just asking a question to Obama but basically making an excuse and setting up Obama on that "flip-flopping" question.

Check out the home page, guy.
Orange County is throwing a collective hissy fit because tickets were near-impossible to obtain for that forum

Umm his white family was never rich. His mother was on food stamps when he was a kid.
is there a commercial break right now?

the streamer just says "BE RIGHT BACK"

Anyone that things changing your mind on an issue based on newer information is a bad thing is retarded.

OH NOOOES!!!!! 1%!!

oh wait, margin of error is 3% so still tied. DOH.

So you were telling us all how a black man would never win when Obama is leading/tied with McCain?

Of course.
But a moderator’s job is to present the question and keep the debaters within their time limits, not ask a question and in the process answer it for them as well.

He went to the richest school in Hawaii

what the fuck?
never said anything like that. I don’t care what color anyone is, I was showing that Obama isn’t in the lead, but they are tied.

You’re a fucking idiot. John McCain divorced his first wife to marry an heiress and you conservatives are still trying to paint Obama as an elitist. Jesus Christ.

did he personally tell you that he only did it for money?

I confused you with the sixth and seventh poster.

wait, what does one have to do with the other?

Because one divorced his wife to marry an heiress means that therefore the other cannot be an elitist too?

Truth is, they are BOTH elitists. There is nothing special or amazing or different about either of them. They are both corrupt politicians.

Let’s see, he came back from Vietnam and found that his wife was disfigured after a car accident. He cheated on her with Cindy, divorced his first wife and married Cindy a month later. Draw the conclusion for yourself.
Meaningless poll. Obama needs a 10-15 point lead in the polls to actually "tie" in the popular vote.

Bradley effect, son.

In terms of elitism, I’ve always based it on the premise that owning 10 homes and flying around on a private jet is more elitist than living in a moderately-nice house and donating more than a 10th of your net-worth to charity.
how is this an actual debate or Q&A session with each?

i did a double take

They’re answering questions individually. I said that in the beginning, but the fact remains that they just asked Obama which Supreme Court justice would he have not nominated and I doubt that John McCain knows the names of all of them.

He went on a scholarship. Go do some research before spewing bullshit. Even fox news reports he went on a scholarship.

His mom was on food stamps while he was a kid. His grandparents were middle class folks.

Popular vote does not matter, and the Bradley effect did not show up during the primary.

John McCain said there was an elevating conflict on the Iraq-Pakistan border.

Yea, about his house

This doesn’t really scream elitist to me:

it has a fence…that’s elitist; he wants to be separated from the average man!!

Of course he is, but the point is that he’s in no way an elitist.

Dude Obama is rich. He wasn’t born in to it though like Mccain was. He got their on his own, which honestly is a much better personal story then Mccains if you think about it. Obama is a self made man.

If you know all about him, then you should know the little scandal about it then.

btw, you don’t have to be born rich to get an elitist attitude, that can come with power too, which he and McCain get theirs from. That "we are now better than everyone else" mentality.

yeah, he seems relaxed…the vacation did him well

Here is a lesson on msg control, do not talk about or post Obamas big ass house in Chicago.

that is a bunch of bullshit. The national press went through everything about rezko and found jack shit. There is a reason Mccain and the RNC are not attacking it now, because there is nothing there.

if you honestly think he doesn’t know who the justices are you a fucking moron

he has been in washington for decades, i think he understands it a little better than you

even if you don’t like him or his stances, you don’t have to assume he has the mental capacity of an eight year old

seriously, go back to sucking jon stewarts cock

Sadly I got to agree with Pootie. He may be old, but he does not have alzheimers yet.

That house looks like 4,000 - 5,000 square feet…

dude that house is worth almost 2 mil. You are crazy.

i don’t even like him that much

i just hate when people turn politicians into caricatures

He got it for a little over a million. Like I said, 4,000 - 5,000 sq. feet isn’t at all "huge" nor elitist. I guess that’s considered huge?
wow the phrasing of this question is as if Rick Warren thinks Obama is going to be president.

I’m not doubting his mental capacity, I think he is quite knowledgeable on foreign affairs and the legislative agenda.

to most americans, and most texans, that would be considered elitist.

1.65 million actually with a $300,000 discount

Tony Rezco, his neighbor and now convicted felon, helped bring the price down

I live in a 3,600 square foot house which cost about 250 when we first bought it. It’s not the cost but it’s the fact that 4-5 bedrooms isn’t huge or lavish for parents with kids.

lol?
haha Mccain is already fucking up. This is so pathetic. David Petraeus.

alot of people still love him

Did you mean: disenguous

i’m on a delay bro

keep the spoilers out
"my friends"

shit makes me want to shoot myself

I couldn’t fucking spell it out.
I’m tempted to take tekdragon off my IL just to see his posts in this thread. I need a good laugh. should I?

he’s not even posting anymore
I can’t say I’m surprised, this is turning into a pander-fest rather than him genuinely answering questions.

no need, he’s got a dildo up his ass somewhere so he’s not posting….
mccain just went way off msg hes flip flopped on torture.

he’s been on for 5 minutes

busy in congress actually voting on stuff.
Politics fused with religion…oh what a sad society we live in…
good answer for mccain on flip flopping. Staying on msg. Real good.

He was asked to name a position which he’s changed his mind on over the past few years:

"Off-shore drilling. We gotta’ drill here, we gotta’ drill now!"

i’m watching it

they aren’t lobbing him softballs exactly
mccain playing pander bear. Obama took this more seriously I think.
man on this mccain is a hero. He could have gone home and told them no. That takes balls.

did he just say that he didn’t take the offer because he was injured?…I lost the feed for a second…

no he was injured and still said no.

I am a liberal and support it, we have longer to figure out what to do with the waste then we do to fix the co2 situation.

Yucca mountain could hold virtually all nuclear byproducts for over a hundred years, possibly longer i think
McCain is whoring out his POW story again. Lets vote from him because we feel sry for him everybody!

just like voting for Obama because he’s black
Ron Bennington needs to moderate presidential debates

repost from about 10 minutes ago
He just got done talking about the importance of supreme judges on this note then said he believes in the states right to choose… which is it?
Why do I get the feeling that these questions were specifically tailored for John McCain?
"There’s evil in the world, should we ignore it, negotiate with it, or defeat it?"

- "Defeat it!"

*evangelical christians wet themselves because of tough talk*
this book shows the dangers of fusing religion and politics and how it corrupts the Church

I thought McCain wasn’t supposed to hear the questions before hand?
Aside from pandering and disagreeable answers McCain is being very confident and presentable.

he sounds like a simpleton compared to Obama.
warren’s body language and tone honestly seem like he is dissapointed in mccain.

it had a lot more depth
Mccain claims Obama will lose a war to win an election, Mccain wants to start a war with Russia to win an election.
oh shit he just pulled the "one of the first christian nations" card.

what is a christian nation? I thought being a christian was an individual decision?
the only ones clapping for mccain are fat white bitches with tight buttoned up collared shirts and short curly hair with glasses.
As said in the other thread, McCain answered NONE of the questions. He pushed them aside with a statement about what the REAL issue is, then went on like he was at a campaign speech event. Plus, all of his answers had something to do with the military. Anyone catch what he said when asked why he wants to be president? "I want every American to be a part of something greater than themselves". Minutes ago, that’s the exact definition he used for the military.
wow there was a debate

when was this one announced?

what channel is it on?
it wasn’t really a debate… just a bunch of lunies in a church clapping and cheering on mccain around a "late night talk show" style desk and coffee mug

TekDragon is a propagandist moron. Pay him no mind.

It wasn’t a debate. It was Obama trying to answer questions and McCain telling cool stories and avoiding all of them to attract the evangelicals.

Right wingers think Obama was dodging the questions and McCain was very decisive

Hannity forums think McCain won with 87%

You can’t win a forum debate. There’s nothing to win since they aren’t responding to each other’s answers. It’s an oxymoron. You can say who did better, but it doesn’t matter because they delivered information in completely different ways. If you watched the pastor’s body language, he was getting so frustrated that McCain wasn’t even answering his questions.

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