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By STAFF REPORTERS

RUSSIA threatened to NUKE Poland yesterday as the world faced the prospect of a terrifying new Cold War.
The chilling threat was issued by a top general of Vladimir Putin amid mounting tensions over the war in Georgia.

Gen Anatoly Nogovitsy lashed out after Poland agreed to help the US create a “missile shield” over Europe. He said: “Poland is making itself a target. Such targets are destroyed as a first priority.”

Gen Nogovitsy stressed Moscow was ready to use nuclear weapons “against allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them”. Russia is furious Poland has said the US can put an interceptor base and a battery of Patriot missiles on its territory.

“The USA is engaged in an anti-missile defence for its own government, and not for Poland. And Poland, in deploying (elements of the system) opens itself to a military strike. That is 100 per cent,” Gen Nogovitsy was quoted as saying.

“It is written clearly - we will use it in instances against governments that have nuclear weapons, against allies of countries with nuclear weapons, if they somehow enable them.”

The Russian government revamped its national security doctrine in 2000, broadening the range of conflicts in which nuclear weapons could be used.

President Dmitry Medvedev, ruling under the direction of predecessor Mr Putin, said the missile defences were aimed at Russia.

He branded US claims that they are a deterrent against rogue states “a fairy tale”.

In the wake of the chilling threat, the Kremlin said today that President Medvedev has signed the plan for a cease-fire in Georgia.

The move comes a day after Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili reluctantly signed the plan that calls for Russian troops to pull back, but that also grants them limited patrols inside Georgia.

President Medvedev’s spokesman Alexei Pavlov says the president signed the order but did not give further details.

The plan appears to leave some tense issues open to interpretation, including whether Georgia will be able to send troops back into parts of South Ossetia, the separatist republic where massive fighting erupted last week.

Georgian Prime Minister Lado Gurgenidze suggested Russian military operations, which have seen troops fan out from the South Ossetia into the Georgian heartland, were far from over.

He said Russian soldiers had blown up a bridge, west of the capital Tbilisi, early this afternoon.

“That bridge being gone effectively results in the country losing east-west railway communications. For how long I do not know,” he told reporters.

Russia’s General Staff denied carrying out the bridge attack.

Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Moscow would pull troops out of the conflict zone once additional security arrangements there are put in place.
Putin needs a hobby other than threatening former soviet bloc countries.
you can tell these russian guys are fucking retarded now. dont they realize that todays nuclear weapons will decemate an area much much larger than just poland? for fucks sake, if their nukes can only destroy one small country like that, then they have already lost ww3.
we should just nuke russia…and iraq…and georgia (I mean the state)

wat

oh look, another person who thinks a nuke can destroy an entire country.
Nuke Poland? yea that will show the US. Bush needs to call up Putin and tell him to tone down the disrespect

I don’t think he’s serious.

at least I hope he’s not serious

I hope he’s not but on OT nothing is certain
Anyone else think this could all just be a ploy to make people think theres going to be a WW3 so that mccain gets elected??

i don’t think it hurts mccain’s chances

wtf

yeah Putin is involved in trying to influence u.s. elections.

:tinfoilhat:

maybe you should think before you post

good one

Post your idea at democraticunderground.com. Those stupid faggots will eat that shit up.

69?

if u swallow….

it could if the country were small enough!

or you could just use more than 1 for large countries

The last person I’d want in control of our nuclear arsenal during a cold war is john fucking mccain.

Russia > *

a nuke that will take out 120,000 square miles? that’s serious shit!

Gigatonnage, son.

don’t worry mr. serebrenekov, we understand the bomb is the size of new york, but it will DEFINITELY wipe out poland….so let’s use it
The Sun newspaper.
It’s a fucking joke of a newspaper.
russia isn’t necessarily wrong in what they’re getting upset over.

the whole idea between people not firing off nukes is the whole dooms day thing. if the US / the rest of Europe can shoot down Russia’s nukes before they reach anywhere then what’s to stop us from blowing them to pieces if the mood strikes us right? It’s not like they could return fire

we’re assholes

if we blow up russia, then american strip clubs may go out of business (or at least find a different species of whore)

13k

Well there are plenty of pacific island nations you could wipe out pretty easily with one nuke.

Obviously nothing the size of Poland though

This is being widely reported though

financial times -

Thanks mr.nitpick.

the conflict is us taking away Russia’s ability to use their nukes.. I think this may be more serious than we realize

normally I hate the ot nitpick but you cant call someone an idiot (even if justified) and then sprout absolutes

Calling them an idiot is pretty well justified. It’s assumed no one is talking about an island nation, or any other "micro state" like gibraltar or the vatican.

Common sense my friend.

Dude, they stared into eachother’s souls

You must be right since you used bold letters and even capitalized defensive for some reason.

If the shoe was on the other foot…if russia was about to take about the US’ ability to strike russia with nukes..and they needed bases in cuba to do it…would the US not take it as provocation?

I can’t wait to fuck feral teenagers that live under their parents house
This is such bullshit no major news source has clamied this

yea because McCain and Putin are friends you fucking idiot

Obviously…

Obama = change
McCain = Iron fist of the motherland

why didnt you put this shit together before noob?

so… no major news agency ran the edwards affair story until it was too late

it is a shithole state… let me get out first k?
you guys know that russia is the most corrupt country in existance ?

all of the top officials are ex-kgb spies from the cold war that still thinks the USA is going to nuke them
russia and nukes = fail all around, they have a lot and still have better ones then China but their people in charge are the problem
He has a point though, if the US threatens to nuke Russia then Russia should obliterate countries like Poland so the US’s missile shield won’t be able to protect them against a Russian counter strike.

Putin is the former head of the KGB, truly shocking that the top officials are kgb vets.

and most corrupt in what sense? Places like China and NKorea can certainly give them a run for their money, depending on what kind of corruption you’re talking about.

we need boris yeltsin back.

Yeltsin was an incompetent clown.
I think this is ploy by the Obama camp to try to make people afraid of Mccain.

You and your neighbor hate each other so much that you get a gun to try to kill him, he finds out you have a gun so he gets one for himself, now the two of you constantly aim your guns at each other but you refrain from shooting him because you KNOW that if you shot him then he would probably kill you before he fell to the ground.

Then one day your neighbor shows up with a bulletproof vest…

or mccain is doing it so the country chooses a war veteren over a jewnog.

They have designed the bombs to explode in the exact shape of Poland.

Nope its obama
Threatening to nuke poland is like threatening to beat up a retarded guy

heh heh, mr.putin, some of my fellow…. americans!… have asked, humbly, to tone down the… disrespect!…
big words from a country that realizes it is too far behind in technology to do anything

also, they must think our missile defense is way more better than it actually is

Too far behind? This isn’t the 50’s.

Talk about a wild fucking generalization.

The M.A.D. doctrine must be maintained, although I understand the fear of a terrorist attack I still think the missile shield is a terrible idea.

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won’t the fallout cover Russia?

Don’t the winds blow east?
I’m half Polish

Not again.. why, whenever war is going to break out, the evil general has to be like "Hey guys, you want to go sack Poland on the way?"
Threat of a Cold War…From Russia? Fucking country could barely work a microwave, let alone start a nuclear war.
SHIT….
Russia is arming its Baltic fleet with Nuclear Warheads

yeah because they dont have an aging military and infrastructure or anything

youre right this isnt the 50’s because in the 50’s the arms race was actually a race

barring a full nuclear war, russia is far behind in technology

Russia had bigger nuclear bombs that the U.S. did.

Doesn’t mean what they have is ineffective and what they lack in modern technology they more thank make up in numbers.
Ahh shit, do I need to move farther away from DC now?
all we have to do is put sanctions against Russia and their shit will crumble again, lol

You’re a fucking idiot, Russia is the second largest oil supplier to Europe and their largest supplier of natural gas. No sanctions would ever be considered.

you’d have to clone gorby as well

why would you want to nuke us gerogians? we have atlanta bitch

What has atlanta ever done for anyone?

They’re pointing missiles at fucking bordering countries. They want to nuke poland for letting us install a fucking missile defense system.

If the U.S. was doign the same thing to Mexico and Canada, you bet the world would fucking flip out at us.

Do you think the U.S. would get pissed if Russia wanted to install a missle defense system in Cuba?

big air port, coke was made there, old Olympic games, eh other stuff…
Fuck, people flip out at the United States taking a mass murderer out of power in Iraq yet its fucking fine and dandy to let Russia point nukes at border countries and attack other countries (south ossentia or whatever the fuck its called)

Olympics are your only saving grace.

I dont see the problem with that. Now if they were installing a system to launch nukes, then yes, I would see a problem. But I dont see any problem with them trying to protect themselves

As far as most nations are concerned Russia will end up doing whatever the fuck it wants to do in it’s backyard.

It’s backyard = former soviet bloc countries

we have the largest gay population of the east.. i guess thats good if youre gay

Russia should just nuke itself while they’re at it.

I find it odd that the largest gay population in so far south.

Hopefully they nuke you.

i mean of the cities on the east coast

And I hope they nuke you as well

Thats funny, you would think NYC or MA would have the largest gay populations

I know exactly what you mean.

Somewhere in south florida or the northeast corridor I could understand.

just wanted to make sure we were on the same page

i know right? go to mid town atlanta and you will see

We’re on the same sentence, bro.

k good

He’s still alive isn’t he?

Wow you’re pretty stupid.
The missile shield is entirely pointless. It could take down 1 or 2 ICBMs if it is lucky. Which wouldn’t even dent the number Russia would fire at us in a nuclear war… and other nations which would only be able to fire 1 or 2 ICBMs… don’t have the technology to reach us anyway plus they’d probably just ship a nuke over to us if they were going to do a nuke attack.

I don’t know why we are pushing it… especially in an ex-soviet state of all places. And I don’t know why Russia cares considering it is just an expensive piece of fail we will be building.

-10 rep points for both sides

Seriously, not every nuke has to take out a huge area. There are low-yield(well under 1 megaton) tactical nukes that could be used on an actual battlefield. The devastating power of a nuclear explosion in a small area.

The communications hub of the U.S.

location: norcal

i think we will all lose…think about it broski
There’s no-one left in Poland. They’re all down the road from my village in England.

theres a shitload round here too

That’s because they’re everywhere

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